Husband: Johann Adam Knoll (1)
Born: 21 Oct 1778 in Klein-Umstasdt, Darmstadt, Hesse, Germany
Married: 02 Jun 1808
Died: 1826 in Prob Altheim, Darmstadt, Hesse, Germany (2)
Father: Andread Knoll
Mother: Susanne Marg Sturmfels
Spouses:
Wife: Anne Margarethe Schodt (3)
Born: in Of Altheim Hauptstraze 27
Died:
Father: Philipp Schodt
Mother: Anna Margarethe
Spouses:
Children
01 (F): Elizabeth Dorothea Knoll, Kneil Knell (4 5 6 7 8)
Born: 30 Jan 1809 in Altheim, Darmstadt, Hessen, Germany
Died: 18 Oct 1888 in Adam Zimmerman Farm, Fillmore Co, MN (9)
Spouses: Johann Christian Zimmerman
02 (M): Johann Adam Knoll (10)
Born: 30 Aug 1813
Died:
Spouses: Katherine Elizabeth Appell
03 (M): Philipp Knoll (11)
Born:
Died:
Spouses:
Additional Information

Johann Adam Knoll:

Notes:

From Pfarrer Walter:


" Her (Elizabeth Dorothea Knoll b.1809) father in Altheim was Johann Adam Knoll, born October 21, 1778 in Klein-Umstadt (a neighboring village) son of Andread Knoll and Susanne Marg, nee Strumfels. He died in Altheim on January 26, 1806. He married Anne Margarethe, nee Schodt, in Altheim on June 2, 1808. She was from Altheim Hauptstraze 27. Of the eight brothers and sisters of Johann Adam Knoll, two died while yet children, three girls married into families from Altheim, Schaatheim and Harpertshau. Johann Adam Knoll was born August 30, 1813, and remained in the house and continued the line. The oldest daughter, Elizabeth Dorothea Knoll went, according to the traditions of the descendants, to Canada to help out the fatherless family with money. The father died at age 48 in 1826."

This is a little confusing but I've figured it out thusly:

Generation I- Andread Knoll died 26 Jan 1806 Altheim, married Susanne Marg Strumfels

Generation II- Johann Adam Knoll b. 21 Oct 1778 in Klein Umstadt; m. Anne Margarethe Schodt of Altheim Hauptstasse 27, in Altheim, 2 Jun 1808; died 1826
Generation II- 8 brothers and sisters

Generation III- Elizabeth Dorthea Knoll b. 30 Jan 1809
Generation III- Johann Adam Knoll b. 30 Aug 1813

Anne Margarethe Schodt:

Notes:


1) from Zimmerman History, p. 34: Her (Elizabeth Knoll Zimmerman's) mother and Grandmother lived to be very old, both reaching the ripe old age of about ninety years.


2) From the "History of the Zimmerman Family in Altheim" by Pfarrer Walter:

" However Knoll family was not without means at that time. Her mother's parents owned what for Altheim was quite a good piece of property at Hauptstraze 27. The parents, Philipp Schodt, born 1738, and Anna Margarethe Schodt, (married 1760) had two sons. Johann Martin and Johann Philipp who married someone from outside Altheim. The daughter, Anna Margarethe Schodt, stayed in her parents home and married Johann Adam Knoll from Klein Umstadt. In 1804 the property consisted of a two story house (that still stands today and has an arched gate), a barn and stable, on fourth Morgen (a measure of land six to nine tenths of an acre) garden, thirty four Morgen fields, three and three-fourths Morgen meadows, value of the property 200 florins. In 1848 the property was passed on to the son (inherited) who was again called Johann Adam Knoll, born August 29, 1813, and married Katherine Elizabeth Appell on June 12, 1836 (first wife). The son, Johann Nikolaus Knoll I took over the house and farm in 1871. His son was Johann Nikolaus Knoll II. His oldest daughter, Anna Marie Knoll, born February 5, 1817 married the farmer, Friedrich Heinrich Funck, who died at an advanced age, and passed the property on to the Hergert family. The farm yard had 617 sq. meters and the meadow 428 sq. M."

It sounds like to me that Anna Margarethe inherited the property of her parents because her two brothers married and moved outside the city. So when Anna's husband, Johann Adam Knoll #1 died, she at least had some property.

Footnotes
  1. Pfarrer Walter of Altheim to Rolland Zimmerman, History of the Zimmerman Family in Altheim (written in conjunction with Rolland Zimmerman's visit to Altheim in October of 1983 ), p. 28.

    p. 28 Her father in Altheim was Johann Adam Knoll, born October 21, 1778 in Klein-Umstadt (a neighboring village) son of Andread Knoll and Susanne Marg, nee Strumfels. He died in Altheim on January 26, 1806. He married Anne Margarethe, nee Schodt, in Altheim on June 2, 1808. She was from Altheim Hauptstraze 27. Of the eight brothers and sisters of Johann Adam Knoll, two died while yet children, three girls married into families from Altheim, Schaatheim and Harpertshau. Johann Adam Knoll was born August 30, 1813, and remained in the house and continued the line. The oldest daughter, Elizabeth Dorothea Knoll went, according to the traditions of the
    p. 29 family with money. The father died at age 48 in 1826. However Knoll family was not without means at that time. Her mother's parents owned what for Altheim was quite a good piece of property at Hauptstraze 27.

  2. Ibid.
  3. Ibid., p. 28.
  4. Zimmerman, Forrest- notes from conversation with.
  5. Goettel, Steve Lloyd, Britzius, Zimmerman, Maurer Research.
  6. Census, Federal - 1870 - Mower Co., MN, town of Racine, Ancestry p.4 of 14.
    (4 Jun 1870)

    Dwelling # 59 Family # 59

    Zimmerman, Peter age 27 farmer RE=$3000 PE=$200 b. Canada
    Catherine 25 Can
    Anna 1 MN
    Elizabeth 60 Hesse Darmstadt

  7. Pfarrer Walter of Altheim to Rolland Zimmerman, History of the Zimmerman Family in Altheim (written in conjunction with Rolland Zimmerman's visit to Altheim in October of 1983 ), pp.28,29.

    p. 28 The wife of the emigrant Christian Zimmerman from Altheim, Hauptstraze 35, was Elizabeth Knoll, who likewise came from Altheim. She came from the house at Hauptstraze 27 (today Hergert), therefore only a few houses farther on the same side of the street. Elizabeth Knoll emigrated to Canada in May of 1832 as did Christian Zimmerman. Therefore they did not become acquainted on the emigrant ship as descendants assumed, rather they must have decided together, back in Altheim, to emigrate to Canada. Elizabeth Knoll was born in Altheim. In earlier times, Altheim was also called Spitzaltheim, because the church in Altheim had a high pointed (spitzen) tower. Elizabeth Dorothea Knoll was born January 30, 1809, and died October 18, 1888 on the Adam Zimmerman farm in the U.S.A. at Preston in Minnesota, allegedly at the age of 76 years, 9 months. Her father in Altheim was Johann Adam Knoll, born October 21, 1778 in Klein-Umstadt (a neighboring village) son of Andread Knoll and Susanne Marg, nee Strumfels. He died in Altheim on January 26, 1806. He married Anne Margarethe, nee Schodt, in Altheim on June 2, 1808. She was from Altheim Hauptstraze 27. Of the eight brothers and sisters of Johann Adam Knoll, two died while yet children, three girls married into families from Altheim, Schaatheim and Harpertshau. Johann Adam Knoll was born August 30, 1813, and remained in the house and continued the line. The oldest daughter, Elizabeth Dorothea Knoll went, according to the traditions of the descendants, to Canada to help out the fatherless
    p. 29 family with money. The father died at age 48 in 1826. However Knoll family was not without means at that time. Her mother's parents owned what for Altheim was quite a good piece of property at Hauptstraze 27. The parents, Philipp Schodt, born 1738, and Anna Margarethe Schodt, (married 1760) had two sons. Johann Martin and Johann Philipp who married someone from outside Altheim. The daughter, Anna Margarethe Schodt, stayed in her parents home and married Johann Adam Knoll from Klein Umstadt. In 1804 the property consisted of a two story house (that still stands today and has an arched gate), a barn and stable, on fourth Morgen (a measure of land six to nine tenths of an acre) garden, thirty four Morgen fields, three and three-fourths Morgen meadows, value of the property 200 florins. In 1848 the property was passed on to the son (inherited) who was again called Johann Adam Knoll, born August 29, 1813, and married Katherine Elizabeth Appell on June 12, 1836 (first wife). The son, Johann Nikolaus Knoll I took over the house and farm in 1871. His son was Johann Nikolaus Knoll II. His oldest daughter, Anna Marie Knoll, born February 5, 1817 married the farmer, Friedrich Heinrich Funck, who died at an advanced age, and passed the property on to the Hargert family. The farm yard had 617 sq. meters and the meadow 428 sq. M.

  8. Annie Marie Zimmerman Nelson, Zimmerman Family History and Stories;forward by Allan Leslie VanLehn (Unpublished work (c) 2008 by (ALVL)).

    p.10 An inheritance came for my grandmother from the old country; but a man by the name of Henry Zimmerman, who was not a relative and who had no right to it whatever, succeeded in getting it away from her.
    For a number of years until Henry, the oldest boy, was ready to marry, the mother and fami1y carried on the work of the farm together. She built a large wooden barn, and made a few other improvements. I was interested to learn that grandmother had a little cow "Daisy" that she kept for twenty two years.
    The Greys were among their friends at this time. After Henry was married he built a brick house for himself, but my grandmother continued to live in the old house. Some time later Henry sold the place to a Mr. Strasser and my grandmother came to the United States to live with some of her children (most were living in Minnesota). She seemed to be grieved because Henry did not succeed as well on the old place as she thought he should. Whatever property she may have had was lost in some way through Henry's mismanagement.

  9. Kneil, Elizabeth - photo of tombstone.

    [Methodist Cemetery, Preston, MN]

  10. Pfarrer Walter of Altheim to Rolland Zimmerman, History of the Zimmerman Family in Altheim (written in conjunction with Rolland Zimmerman's visit to Altheim in October of 1983 ), p.28.
  11. Ibid., p. 34.

    In later years, (Elizabeth Dorothea Knoll Zimmerman) often spoke to her children about her brother, Philip,
    who seemed to have been an exceedingly clever and successful man.

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