Selected Families and Individuals
Source Citations
Thomas WHITE
1Steel, John, Bit More, EMail from to dated 23 MAY 2002. "Dianne
Do you have these? From this the Hannah who died in 1800 can not be the
same one. But from this if we get to the bishops transcripts (there is a
copy in Kendal) then we can probably find Hannah's father or even
parents and maybe a birth date.
But records can be wrong but I am sure from the transcripts we will get
it, it looks also as if the Mounseys married the Cockbaines who I am
also related to. Lot of intermarrying in the rural areas in those days I
guess.
John
John Harris WHITE
Sex: M
Event(s):
Christening: 10 Sep 1788
Matterdale, Cumberland, England
Parents:
Father: Thomas WHITE
Mother: Ruth
John Harris WHITE
Sex: M
Marriage(s):
Spouse: Hannah MOUNSEY
Marriage: 10 Sep 1809
Watermillock, Cumberland, England.".
2Steel, John, Bit More Again, EMail from to dated 24MAY2002. "At 0601 PM 5/24/02 +0300, you wrote
Dianne
Looks at if this is John Harris White parents marriage plus some more
related details.
You will have to print this out and get a tree going on paper I think to
make sense of it.
But I can't find anything else on Mary Todhunter, the birth registration
for Joseph says she was from Hutton, this is a village almost half way
between Watermillock and Greystoke. I can't see any way of tracking her
down without getting to the transcripts as the IGI is very incomplete.
Anyway this next list should give you something to think about.
John
Thomas WHITE
Sex M
Marriage(s)
Spouse Ruth HARRIS
Marriage 11 Nov 1782
Watermillock, Cumberland, England
The next one is only a possible for Thomas's birth. This would make him
35 when he married, a bit late but not impossible.
Thomas WHITE
Sex M
Event(s)
Christening 14 Feb 1747
Matterdale, Cumberland, England
Parents
Father Abraham WHITE
Mother Mary.".
3Lucinda Smith Email, 11 Feb 2005. "I have learned that Thomas and Ruth were having a family at Greening (adjacent to the north of the Brownrigg farm) in the 1780s. Their children were Mary, bap 23 Dec 1783 (IGI Batch no. C002262) Sarah, bap 13 Mar 1786 (IGI Batch no. C002262) and John Harris White."
4Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, FamilySearch.com, Batch # M000791, Source # 0962267 iT1.
Ruth HARRIS
1Steel, John, Bit More, EMail from to dated 23 MAY 2002. "Dianne
Do you have these? From this the Hannah who died in 1800 can not be the
same one. But from this if we get to the bishops transcripts (there is a
copy in Kendal) then we can probably find Hannah's father or even
parents and maybe a birth date.
But records can be wrong but I am sure from the transcripts we will get
it, it looks also as if the Mounseys married the Cockbaines who I am
also related to. Lot of intermarrying in the rural areas in those days I
guess.
John
John Harris WHITE
Sex: M
Event(s):
Christening: 10 Sep 1788
Matterdale, Cumberland, England
Parents:
Father: Thomas WHITE
Mother: Ruth
John Harris WHITE
Sex: M
Marriage(s):
Spouse: Hannah MOUNSEY
Marriage: 10 Sep 1809
Watermillock, Cumberland, England.".
2Steel, John, Bit More Again, EMail from to dated 24MAY2002. "At 0601 PM 5/24/02 +0300, you wrote
Dianne
Looks at if this is John Harris White parents marriage plus some more
related details.
You will have to print this out and get a tree going on paper I think to
make sense of it.
But I can't find anything else on Mary Todhunter, the birth registration
for Joseph says she was from Hutton, this is a village almost half way
between Watermillock and Greystoke. I can't see any way of tracking her
down without getting to the transcripts as the IGI is very incomplete.
Anyway this next list should give you something to think about.
John
Thomas WHITE
Sex M
Marriage(s)
Spouse Ruth HARRIS
Marriage 11 Nov 1782
Watermillock, Cumberland, England
The next one is only a possible for Thomas's birth. This would make him
35 when he married, a bit late but not impossible.
Thomas WHITE
Sex M
Event(s)
Christening 14 Feb 1747
Matterdale, Cumberland, England
Parents
Father Abraham WHITE
Mother Mary.".
3Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, FamilySearch.com, Batch P003021, Souce # 092149 & 092150.
4Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, FamilySearch.com, Batch # M000791, Source # 0962267 iT1.
Mary WHITE
1Lucinda Smith Email, 11 Feb 2005. from "My Descendant Chart" received 11 Feb 2005.
2Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, FamilySearch.com, IGI Batch # C002262.
Sarah WHITE
1Lucinda Smith Email. from "My Descendant Chart" received 11 Feb 2005.
George MOUNSEY
1Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, FamilySearch.com, BN: P000791, SCN: 0962267 IT 1, PCN: 6904527. International Genealogical Index.
2Barfoot, Paul , Global Family Project, Ancestry.com.
3Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, FamilySearch.com, BN: M000791, SCN: 0962267 IT 1, PCN: 6904528. International Genealogical Index.
Sarah PEACOCK
1Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, FamilySearch.com, BN: P000791, SCN: 0962267 IT 1, PCN: 6904527. International Genealogical Index.
2Barfoot, Paul , Global Family Project, Ancestry.com.
3Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, FamilySearch.com, BN: M000791, SCN: 0962267 IT 1, PCN: 6904528. International Genealogical Index.
Margaret MOUNSEY
1Steel, John, Bit More Again, EMail from to dated 24MAY2002. "At 0601 PM 5/24/02 +0300, you wrote
Dianne
Looks at if this is John Harris White parents marriage plus some more
related details.
You will have to print this out and get a tree going on paper I think to
make sense of it.
But I can't find anything else on Mary Todhunter, the birth registration
for Joseph says she was from Hutton, this is a village almost half way
between Watermillock and Greystoke. I can't see any way of tracking her
down without getting to the transcripts as the IGI is very incomplete.
Anyway this next list should give you something to think about.
John
Thomas WHITE
Sex M
Marriage(s)
Spouse Ruth HARRIS
Marriage 11 Nov 1782
Watermillock, Cumberland, England
The next one is only a possible for Thomas's birth. This would make him
35 when he married, a bit late but not impossible.
Thomas WHITE
Sex M
Event(s)
Christening 14 Feb 1747
Matterdale, Cumberland, England
Parents
Father Abraham WHITE
Mother Mary.".
John MOUNSEY
1Steel, John, Bit More Again, EMail from to dated 24MAY2002. "At 0601 PM 5/24/02 +0300, you wrote
Dianne
Looks at if this is John Harris White parents marriage plus some more
related details.
You will have to print this out and get a tree going on paper I think to
make sense of it.
But I can't find anything else on Mary Todhunter, the birth registration
for Joseph says she was from Hutton, this is a village almost half way
between Watermillock and Greystoke. I can't see any way of tracking her
down without getting to the transcripts as the IGI is very incomplete.
Anyway this next list should give you something to think about.
John
Thomas WHITE
Sex M
Marriage(s)
Spouse Ruth HARRIS
Marriage 11 Nov 1782
Watermillock, Cumberland, England
The next one is only a possible for Thomas's birth. This would make him
35 when he married, a bit late but not impossible.
Thomas WHITE
Sex M
Event(s)
Christening 14 Feb 1747
Matterdale, Cumberland, England
Parents
Father Abraham WHITE
Mother Mary.".
Mary MOUNSEY
1Steel, John, Bit More Again, EMail from to dated 24MAY2002. "At 0601 PM 5/24/02 +0300, you wrote
Dianne
Looks at if this is John Harris White parents marriage plus some more
related details.
You will have to print this out and get a tree going on paper I think to
make sense of it.
But I can't find anything else on Mary Todhunter, the birth registration
for Joseph says she was from Hutton, this is a village almost half way
between Watermillock and Greystoke. I can't see any way of tracking her
down without getting to the transcripts as the IGI is very incomplete.
Anyway this next list should give you something to think about.
John
Thomas WHITE
Sex M
Marriage(s)
Spouse Ruth HARRIS
Marriage 11 Nov 1782
Watermillock, Cumberland, England
The next one is only a possible for Thomas's birth. This would make him
35 when he married, a bit late but not impossible.
Thomas WHITE
Sex M
Event(s)
Christening 14 Feb 1747
Matterdale, Cumberland, England
Parents
Father Abraham WHITE
Mother Mary.".
Dinah MOUNSEY
1Steel, John, Bit More Again, EMail from to dated 24MAY2002. "At 0601 PM 5/24/02 +0300, you wrote
Dianne
Looks at if this is John Harris White parents marriage plus some more
related details.
You will have to print this out and get a tree going on paper I think to
make sense of it.
But I can't find anything else on Mary Todhunter, the birth registration
for Joseph says she was from Hutton, this is a village almost half way
between Watermillock and Greystoke. I can't see any way of tracking her
down without getting to the transcripts as the IGI is very incomplete.
Anyway this next list should give you something to think about.
John
Thomas WHITE
Sex M
Marriage(s)
Spouse Ruth HARRIS
Marriage 11 Nov 1782
Watermillock, Cumberland, England
The next one is only a possible for Thomas's birth. This would make him
35 when he married, a bit late but not impossible.
Thomas WHITE
Sex M
Event(s)
Christening 14 Feb 1747
Matterdale, Cumberland, England
Parents
Father Abraham WHITE
Mother Mary.".
Thomas MOUNSEY
1Steel, John, Bit More Again, EMail from to dated 24MAY2002. "At 0601 PM 5/24/02 +0300, you wrote
Dianne
Looks at if this is John Harris White parents marriage plus some more
related details.
You will have to print this out and get a tree going on paper I think to
make sense of it.
But I can't find anything else on Mary Todhunter, the birth registration
for Joseph says she was from Hutton, this is a village almost half way
between Watermillock and Greystoke. I can't see any way of tracking her
down without getting to the transcripts as the IGI is very incomplete.
Anyway this next list should give you something to think about.
John
Thomas WHITE
Sex M
Marriage(s)
Spouse Ruth HARRIS
Marriage 11 Nov 1782
Watermillock, Cumberland, England
The next one is only a possible for Thomas's birth. This would make him
35 when he married, a bit late but not impossible.
Thomas WHITE
Sex M
Event(s)
Christening 14 Feb 1747
Matterdale, Cumberland, England
Parents
Father Abraham WHITE
Mother Mary.".
George MOUNSEY
1Steel, John, Bit More Again, EMail from to dated 24MAY2002. "At 0601 PM 5/24/02 +0300, you wrote
Dianne
Looks at if this is John Harris White parents marriage plus some more
related details.
You will have to print this out and get a tree going on paper I think to
make sense of it.
But I can't find anything else on Mary Todhunter, the birth registration
for Joseph says she was from Hutton, this is a village almost half way
between Watermillock and Greystoke. I can't see any way of tracking her
down without getting to the transcripts as the IGI is very incomplete.
Anyway this next list should give you something to think about.
John
Thomas WHITE
Sex M
Marriage(s)
Spouse Ruth HARRIS
Marriage 11 Nov 1782
Watermillock, Cumberland, England
The next one is only a possible for Thomas's birth. This would make him
35 when he married, a bit late but not impossible.
Thomas WHITE
Sex M
Event(s)
Christening 14 Feb 1747
Matterdale, Cumberland, England
Parents
Father Abraham WHITE
Mother Mary.".
Charles MOUNSEY
1Steel, John, Bit More Again, EMail from to dated 24MAY2002. "At 0601 PM 5/24/02 +0300, you wrote
Dianne
Looks at if this is John Harris White parents marriage plus some more
related details.
You will have to print this out and get a tree going on paper I think to
make sense of it.
But I can't find anything else on Mary Todhunter, the birth registration
for Joseph says she was from Hutton, this is a village almost half way
between Watermillock and Greystoke. I can't see any way of tracking her
down without getting to the transcripts as the IGI is very incomplete.
Anyway this next list should give you something to think about.
John
Thomas WHITE
Sex M
Marriage(s)
Spouse Ruth HARRIS
Marriage 11 Nov 1782
Watermillock, Cumberland, England
The next one is only a possible for Thomas's birth. This would make him
35 when he married, a bit late but not impossible.
Thomas WHITE
Sex M
Event(s)
Christening 14 Feb 1747
Matterdale, Cumberland, England
Parents
Father Abraham WHITE
Mother Mary.".
Charles MOUNSEY
1Barfoot, Paul , Global Family Project, Ancestry.com.
Elizabeth DODD
1Barfoot, Paul , Global Family Project, Ancestry.com.
John PEACOCK
1Barfoot, Paul , Global Family Project, Ancestry.com.
Margaret
1Barfoot, Paul , Global Family Project, Ancestry.com.
George MOUNSEY
1Barfoot, Paul , Global Family Project, Ancestry.com.
Ann MARTIN
1Barfoot, Paul , Global Family Project, Ancestry.com.
John MOUNSEY
1Barfoot, Paul , Global Family Project, Ancestry.com.
Elizabeth SHAW
1Barfoot, Paul , Global Family Project, Ancestry.com.
William MOUNSEY
1Barfoot, Paul , Global Family Project, Ancestry.com.
Robert BARTLETT
1Robert Charles Anderson, Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Provo, UT: Ancestry.com 2000, Ancestry.com.
2Pilgrim Ship Lists, http://www.packrat-pro.com/ships/shiplist.htm. ".". "The Lyon
Sailed from London June 22, 1632, arriving in Boston September 16,1632. The master, William Pierce, brought 123 passengers.
Bartlett, Robert."
Ann
1Robert Charles Anderson, Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Provo, UT: Ancestry.com 2000, Ancestry.com.
Abraham WHITE
1Steel, John, Bit More Again, EMail from to dated 24MAY2002. "At 0601 PM 5/24/02 +0300, you wrote
Dianne
Looks at if this is John Harris White parents marriage plus some more
related details.
You will have to print this out and get a tree going on paper I think to
make sense of it.
But I can't find anything else on Mary Todhunter, the birth registration
for Joseph says she was from Hutton, this is a village almost half way
between Watermillock and Greystoke. I can't see any way of tracking her
down without getting to the transcripts as the IGI is very incomplete.
Anyway this next list should give you something to think about.
John
Thomas WHITE
Sex M
Marriage(s)
Spouse Ruth HARRIS
Marriage 11 Nov 1782
Watermillock, Cumberland, England
The next one is only a possible for Thomas's birth. This would make him
35 when he married, a bit late but not impossible.
Thomas WHITE
Sex M
Event(s)
Christening 14 Feb 1747
Matterdale, Cumberland, England
Parents
Father Abraham WHITE
Mother Mary.".
2Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, FamilySearch.com, Batch # 7003708.
Mary DAWSON
1Steel, John, Bit More Again, EMail from to dated 24MAY2002. "At 0601 PM 5/24/02 +0300, you wrote
Dianne
Looks at if this is John Harris White parents marriage plus some more
related details.
You will have to print this out and get a tree going on paper I think to
make sense of it.
But I can't find anything else on Mary Todhunter, the birth registration
for Joseph says she was from Hutton, this is a village almost half way
between Watermillock and Greystoke. I can't see any way of tracking her
down without getting to the transcripts as the IGI is very incomplete.
Anyway this next list should give you something to think about.
John
Thomas WHITE
Sex M
Marriage(s)
Spouse Ruth HARRIS
Marriage 11 Nov 1782
Watermillock, Cumberland, England
The next one is only a possible for Thomas's birth. This would make him
35 when he married, a bit late but not impossible.
Thomas WHITE
Sex M
Event(s)
Christening 14 Feb 1747
Matterdale, Cumberland, England
Parents
Father Abraham WHITE
Mother Mary.".
2Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, FamilySearch.com, Batch # 7003708.
3Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, FamilySearch.com, Batch # 7003708.
Thomas HARRIS
1Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, FamilySearch.com, Batch P003021, Souce # 092149 & 092150.
John HARRIS
1Roger Phillips Email of 16 Jul 2003. "From: "Roger Phillips" To: "Dianne Z Stevens" "Larry Mead" Cc: "John & Beth Mishko" Subject: John Harris White update Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:37:16 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158
I found the following item at the Owasco Cayuga Lakes Historical Society in the Rosecrans files. It is a transciption of a letter written by a daughter of Julia Ann Rosecrans White. I'm going to track down the person who has it to see if they have any other information.
This is a copy of a letter that I found in an old trunk in grandad's attic. I shall copy it exactly as it is written.
Owasco, NY April 11th 1881.
Mr. Burkes
or
Burlees
or
Burhes
Dear Sir,
Please excuse the liberty I take in addressing a few lines to you a stranger. I have always thought I would like to write to some of my relatives in England. if I only knew who & where to write too and seeing your name annexed to the will of Marion Wilson & thinking perhaps you might be a brother of hers. She was a cousin to my father whos name was Johnathan White, son of John H.[Harris] White who married Hannah Parker of England, they having 12 children, their names were Isabella, Ruth, Mary, Matthew, Jonathan, John, Hannah, Jane, Sarah, Joseph, Issac, Thomas, the youngest & grandma [Hannah Parker] died in England.
[here the transcriber mentions he/she left out 2 pages of the letter]
Aunt Ruth did to I believe. Grandpa [John Harris White] was educated by an uncle that he was named after. his uncle at his death left him a dower after receiving it Jane [White, daughter of John Harris White] married my brother [Coonrod Rosekrans] who resided in Moravia at the time of her death which occurred in 1875 or 76. Sarah married by the name of Brown resided in Wisconsin at the time of her death Joseph married a lady by the name of Putney resided at Cayuga. Thomas married a lady by the name of Whitcomb resides at Cayuga Co. New York. Now I have given you a history of the family. Some 2 or 3 years ago I saw an advertisement in the newspaper for the whereabouts of John W. White who came to this country many years ago. I lost the paper & not knowing who to inform of his whereabouts thinking it might be a reletive out there that wished to know of his whereabouts so I have taken this opportunity to inform them.
Direct your ans. to Mrs. Phebe Mattoon
Owasco Cayuga Co.
New York Box __[illegible]
source: letter written by Julia White (Julia Ann Rosecrans) [This must be an incorrect assumption by the transcriber because the author refers to Jonathan White as her father]
her daughter, Mrs. Phebe Mattoon, died at age 37 (1885-86) and husband JW Mattoon then married Abby Houck.
Laurel Auchampaugh [Owasco Town Hisorian] has copy of the letter and gave a copy to Lucinda Abbott Smith.
2nd tidbit. My grandfather Albert Rosecrans told me that when he sold the infamous Hinman Place a few years ago he noticed that either a John or Jonathan White had been a previous owner of some or all of the land. He hadn't made a connection to his grandmother's family until I brought it up.
The 1859 map for Moravia township (Cayuga Co., NY) shows J. White on what is now Hall Rd. across the road from where the Hinman house stood.
Sure enough, when I went back to the 1860 census, I found the family of Jonathan White 45, Julia A. 33, Sarah L. 12, Phebe 11, Clarisa 9 and Albert 7. The ages correspond with dates found on Jonathan White family markers at Indian Mound Cemetery
The 1870 census has Julia A., Sarah L.,Phebe A, Albert P., Chas. W. Metcalf 26 [later married Clarissa]. The next household has John J. White 54 and Elenor 54 - this is likely Jonathan White's brother.
The 1875 map has G. Rosecrans where J. White was in 1859 and Burgess & Hinman across the road where either there wasn't a house or J.M. Thornton lived in 1859.
The 1880 census also has George Rosecrans and Jason Hinman, but no more Whites.
More to come. I've picked up enough information this week to keep me busy until next spring.
Roger Phillips.". "Grandpa (John Harris White) was educated by an uncle that he was named after. His uncle, at his death, left him a dower."
2Lucinda Smith Email, 11 Feb 2005.
3Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, FamilySearch.com, IGI Batch # P000791, Source Call #0962267.